Evil Genius In Austin, Texas Tapping His Fingers Together And Laughing Demonically ... Boris Romanov, St. Petersburg Russia - OmaHamou.com Forum
UPDATED 4/18/2007
Bob Atchison won his lawsuit against Oma Hamou by lying and using forged documents --
http://alexanderpalaceobsession.blogspot.com/2006/11/updatedone-of-many-examples-of-forgery.html
Bob Atchison had "advantage" at trial Mike Newson says Oma Hamou wasn't represented by an attorney...
http://www.omahamou.com/pdf/Plaintiff_s_Reurged_Motion_for_Continuance.pdf
Bob Atchison & Cult "repeatedly" lie to law enforcement in an attempt to rid society of Hamou
http://alexanderpalaceobsession.blogspot.com/2006/12/bob-atchisons-plots-against-oma-hamou.html
http://alexanderpalaceobsession.blogspot.com/2006/11/cult-surrounding-alexander-palace-in.html
http://alexanderpalaceobsession.blogspot.com/2007/03/who-is-poster-who-calls-himself-tsarfan.html
Those who created Pallasart's Oma Hamou Report dot org & Oma Hamou Reality Blog
“…About this whole "Oma" thing I can't comment, except that the only people who really care about it are the ones being sued for libel – so they have to have some kind of "defense" -- and you tell `em I said so…” Peter Kurth Author/Historian
Quote Oma Hamou Report dot org: "...This website is the private property of the author/domain owner, and was researched, written and built by no one else. Robert Atchison has no involvment whatsoever with this content. Such twisting of the truth however, is typical of Hamou and her schemes...."
Yet in the final analysis Bob Atchison's own statements to law enforcement would prove this bit of information wrong. Notice the police say Atchison created a web site to warn others about Hamou's character and notice the police state they went to his site and downloaded it?
According to OmaHamou.com there was only one site up about Hamou at the time and that was the recently created Pallasart's Oma Hamou Report dot org. Source: Mike Newson
There are so many inconsistencies in Atchison's stories he's told to law enforcement, his testimony at trial, court documents and to the public at large. For example in one of the documents submitted to the court Atchison tells Peter Kurth he does not to know the identity of the person who created Oma Hamou Report dot org yet reports from law enforcement says he created it. Furthermore, IP log records from Free WebHostinging showed Pallasart created Oma Hamou Report. In Atchison's oral deposition he claims he is the only person authorized to make changes to his Alexander Palace Time Machine templates which would mean he (not Moshein) created those secret (invisible) links that directed traffic to Oma Hamou Report on Tripod, Freewebhosting and Oma Hamou Report dot org. http://www.omahamou.com/APTMBLOODHOUND.htm
Dr. Jekyl/ Dr. Hyde Persona
According to Mike Newson, the courts in Texas sided with Hamou and issued a "restraining order" (yes, a restraining order) against Pallasart's Oma Hamou Report dot org web site and Rob Moshein but both were pathologically incapable of doing what the court ordered.
They continued to defame, harass (etc) Hamou, Enigma Films and her foundation as demonstrated to the court in private messages sent to various members on Pallasart's (Atchison's company) Russian history forum, the Alexander Palace Time Machine. According to documents submitted to the court, most of the people didn't appreciate being asked to choose sides in the Bob and Oma saga and when they refused, Atchison threw a tantrum and threatened them.
Notice the date of the PM Moshein sends to one of Pallasart's Russian History Forum member:
http://www.omahamou.com/pdf/affidavit/exhibit110.pdf Take a look at the date provided on the court order against Pallasart's Oma Hamou Report dot org and Rob Moshein:
Notice both Bob Atchison and Rob Moshein's intentional violation of the Court’s orders, their flagrant disregard of protective orders concerning Oma Hamou...
NOTHING WAS GOING TO STOP THEM NOT EVEN THE COURTS...
Another poster on AA Legends Forum describes Atchison's Dr. Jekyl / Dr.Hyde personality:
[Excerpts] “…I have to tell you that I've had a pretty interesting week. I've spoken to Bob Atchison several times -- which is unusual…Anyway, long and short of it is he's pretty damned freaked out by what's going on here (Legends), and he watches obsessively. He's asked me to intercede with you guys…I did have a very bad time with them and the treatment I received on their board. They weren't interested in helping out a "friend" then, and guess what? I'm not interested in helping them out now. I told them that you guys had never, ever been anything other than perfectly friendly, helpful and pleasant people.This is my experience with you, and I see no reason to accept anyone else's as more valid. In fact, after my first conversation with Bob (last Sunday), I have to say that I really saw the nature of the beast. I refused to give in to his various demands -- not only concerning you guys, but also concerning Helen…, who has apparently threatened to sue him if he kicks her off his board -- and he went from zero to crazy in nothing flat. I've never seen anything like it. Before he slammed the phone down, he promised to "fuck with me" if I ever fuck with him -- and that he'll write what he "really thinks" …publish it in the NYTimes..."
Oma Hamou's Attorney Dave Slater reminds Atchison of him losing his temper:
December 4, 2003 QUOTE ATTORNEY DAVE SLATER: “Your idea of discovery is not to marshal evidence to prepare for trial or to streamline the issues in controversy. You appear to view it as a way to inflict maximum harm and discomfort upon your adversary. I have no doubt you will have some explanation for the cat and mouse games you played with service of the pleadings and discovery I referenced above and your mysteriously inability to receive faxes when you knew I was attempting to send you documentation that were not welcomed by you. It is amazing to me that you frustrate my attempts to serve documents upon you and contemporaneously, complain about my handling of the discovery process. You may consider this tactic clever but it will not change the outcome of the case. With respect to your childish references to my “bullying” and “threatening” conduct, Mr. Atchison, I again point out that I would much prefer dealing with an ethical adversary bound by the Rules and Cannons of Ethics than with someone who simply makes it up as he goes along. I am not bullying or threatening you by strict adherence to the Rules or by insisting that we put in writing any deviation from them. Just because you use these terms often does not mean that they will somehow give you a leg up at trial. If you recall, the reason we do not communicate by telephone is that during our first and only telephone conversation I had to hang up on you because you could not control your temper...
Author/Historian Peter Kurth in a letter dated June 20, 2004 wrote:
“…I’m sure when I talk to Tom I can at least reassure him as to the bona fides of Oma’s complaint – I mean, not that he doubts it, but that so many of us have been through this kind of thing before at the hands of the same two people. (Bob Atchison and Rob Moshein) One of their latest tricks has been to attack “The Fate of the Romanovs” (by G. King and P. Wilson), not simply –as they used to—by “disagreeing” with its conclusions, but by saying that Greg and Penny used “discredited sources” in writing the work and, moreover, that they refused to allow “professional historian” (the definition of a “professional historian” being entirely in their own hands, of course). Oma is in a more serious position, however, because she’s “tampering” with Bob’s own little baby (the Palace –and “the Boy Who Dream of a Palace,” and all of the rest of that sentimental bullshit—forgiving my French! My guess is he will stop at nothing to destroy her, and would have done the same to me—believe me, he was well along the road—had the DNA tests of 1994 not (temporarily) given him a little breathing room…”
http://www.omahamou.com/pdf/affidavit/exhibit070.pdf
Source: Oma Hamou.com Forum
Read Bob Atchison's Oral Deposition in the Oma Hamou litigation: http://www.bobatchison.co.uk/Atchison11105.pdf or http://www.omahamou.com/PDF/Atchison11105.pdf
Court issues Restraining Order against Oma Hamou Report dot org: http://alexanderpalaceobsession.blogspot.com/2006/12/found-this-according-to-mike-newson.html
Oma Hamou Reality Blog
It is absolutely reprehensible for someone to be able to come up with false, malicious and defamatory information about someone with the intent of destroying their character, and be able to do so with impunity and anonymity.
Rob Moshein's Declaration to the Texas Courts
Rob Moshein states the information he puts out there about Hamou isn't libelous or done with "malice" (*coughing*) rather the information he quotes as being factual is based upon research done to the "best of his ability." (*rolling eyes to heaven*) According to Mike Newson the courts in Texas didn't agree with Moshein's way of thinking and held him accountable by issuing a restraining order against him.
UPDATE: Yesterday, a heated debate between Annie/Lisa S and Rob Moshein erupted on Bob Atchison's Russian history web site forum concerning the enimgatic "Anna Anderson" controversy. In case you didn't know, noted author/historian Penny Wilson was given the boot from further participating on "their" forum because her opinions didn't "jive" with their way of thinking ... then he "whined" about it on Kingandwilson.com...anyhow ... on Atchison's forum Rob published, "...I could care less for O.H...." yeh, right that's why YOU and ATCHISON and the rest of your "web thugs" (a word used to describe you on OmaHamou.com) hijacked the Legends forum to preach your bullshit about O.H. not to mention the web sites and Blog created in O.H.'s honor...yeh, you could care less...ALL OF US HOPE O.H. does succeed in getting Bob Atchison thrown in jail for what he's done to her and if we're lucky they'll take you too!
http://alexanderpalaceobsession.blogspot.com/2007/02/image-hosted-by-imageshackus.html
According to Oma Hamou.com's Mike Newson, Rob Moshein submitted an email communication to the court in Texas from the alleged hit man's wife an email which has never been published on the web.
QUOTE JUST WHO IS MIKE NEWSON BLOG:
-----Original Message-----From: ***********@*****.org [mailto:***********@*****.org]Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:24 PMTo: mike@quadex.us; mike@newson.com Subject: Urgent
Mike, Read this forwared message. I can tell you this if you put up her site for her I know M6 is you ( dont insult mine and **** intelligence by saying it isnt) I will go to Virginia about everything you have told me over the years- nude shoots you went on with girls.Remember the one in Aniheim where I had to demand you to stop touching the girls breasts with make up, ones that you went she knew nothing about. I remember everything you told me about encounters with these young girls. I will tell her just how you feel about her and so on. Even though they were all over 18 you still have basicly cheated on your wife.You have broken my heart and confindence with what you have done with this fucking whore and thats all she is. How dare you take my friendship so lightly. You know me I will not take this lying down. You made a fatal mistake to our friendship Mike and to still lie to me yesterday on the phone saying you knew nothing about her sites.Bullshit. You have ruined a great friendship for this no good backstabbing user bitch. You still are so blind to see she doesnt give a rats fucking ass about you.Are you willing to lose everything for her?You have betrayed me Mike and that will not change. You have forced me to do whatever I have to do through to proper legal channels to put an end to this. I believe the begining will be full disclosure to Virginia you have left me no choice. I trusted you with my friendship Mike something you now for a fact I dont do lightly.
AN EXAMPLE OF FORGERY:
According to Mike Newson this message is not a true copy of the original but does represent how Rob Moshein cuts/pastes things and puts it out as if it was true when it's not. Amongst other things, Newson states the word "forward" does not appear on the same line as indicated in the above letter. By the way folks, remember the FBI found Mike Newson to be a credible source but did not find Bob Atchison credible and it is for these reasons the criminal complaint he filed against Hamou was dismissed - because it lacked credibility.
Now we know as a matter of fact the author of Oma Hamou Reality blog published what appears to be excerpts from an email communication which was "forwarded" to Rob Moshein on its current blog about Mike Newson yet claims not to be in contact with nor in any way affiliated with "anyone" over at Pallasart. (*coughing*) Moshein published on the Legends forum a statement that said "in so many words" if Hamou wanted Oma Hamou Reality Blog to disappear then she should make APO do the same. This blog was created long before anyone from Pallasart or associated with Atchison decided to create a blog on Oma Hamou. Our reasons for doing so was because the Legends forum where most of us freely participated discussing Russian history was hijacked by a bunch of raving lunatics!
Read Mike Newson's Rebuttal: http://alexanderpalaceobsession.blogspot.com/2006/12/in-response-to-pallasarts-just-who-is.html
Rob Moshein's Parenoia Stalks AA Legends History Forum
QUOTE ANASTASIA D: April 11, 2006: A WARNING TO ROB MOSHEIN AND HIS CRONIES
I wanted nothing more than to be Switzerland, a completely neutral party when you decided to mess with me. I would advise you just step back and leave me, and this forum alone. I thought everyone should be aware that Rob has attacked me by contacting RealAnastasia and lying to her by saying I am not who I say I am. Since we both live in Austin, Texas, he claims to have come to my home, where he was told the person who answered the door didn't know who I am. He had the right address, based off the whois info for the domain, so he's either not smart enough to follow directions to find my house, or he's just a flat out liar, because I live where I say I live. BTW Rob, my boyfriend said he'd love to meet you if you'd actually like to come to our home for real. Just be sure to email ahead so that we're home when you get here. And if you need directions, just ask. We'd both love the opportunity to come face to face with you. And thanks for reminding me I forgot to update the phone number in my whois - you're right about that, it's outdated. But again, the address IS correct. Anyway, I had never had any personal contact with you before, and don't fully understand your motivation for attacking me, someone you've never met. Oh wait, yes I do. You're a control freak and you can't control what people say and do here - and you can't handle that. You have no reason to be concerned with my existance, yet went out of your way to lie to RealAnastasia in an attempt to start trouble with my forum by claiming I'm a liar. You are the only liar between the two of us, and even if you can't admit it to others, you know for a fact that it's the truth.
QUOTE ROB MOSHEIN: April 22, 2006 "...Oh yeah, the owner," Anastasia..." spend the thirty dollars for yourself and run the Intelius report, I did. The addresses don't match up, and THAT one is married...THIS one claims a "boyfriend". No, I wont' give you the benefit of my expense. If you want verification, its there for you to buy for yourself...
QUOTE ANASTASIA D: I love the way your story changes. You first wrote to RealAnastasia and told her there is no one in Austin named Anastasia D... Well, I am here and now that you know that everyone can easily see that, you try to tell me I can't be *that* Anastasia D... (BTW, I have had 4 different addresses since moving to Austin. Ever think that maybe some random report hasn't caught up with the current one? I never claimed to have lived at this address for any specific period of time.) As for being married, I am not, and I do live with my boyfriend. Have I ever been married and/or divorced? That's none of your business. So which is it? Do I not exist or am I trying to steal someone else's identity? Inquiring minds want to know...
QUOTE ROB MOSHEIN: "...It is fascinating that you complain on the one hand of allowing public harassment and humiliation in OUR Board, yet the psuedo Anastasia D... (and yes I did go check the veracity of the PUBLICLY posted registration address, funny how you JUMP to assume criminal intent, itself slander when published...) can go on for literally hundreds and hundreds of pages. You know yourself FULL WELL that you would be the first to scream if such behavior about YOU was published on our (APO insert: Bob Atchison's Alexander Palace Time Machine) Forum...
QUOTE ANASTASIA D: The very fact that you are telling ANYONE that I'm not who I say I am, is proof of your moral character. You have never met me, and if by some stretch of the imagination you actually believe your own lies, you're simply a lousy reseacher. According to intelius.com, there are two of me here in Austin....And like I said before, if you'd really like to come here and meet me, just let me know. My boyfriend would love the opportunity to come face to face with you. Although I somehow don't think you have the courage to actually go through with it...
QUOTE ANASTASIA D: May 17, 2006 - I never imagined I would be attacked by the owner/moderator of another site, who would lie to others about me behind my back. And then he and his "arch enemy" (and their various people) would take over and use the place as their personal mud wrestling ring...
QUOTE ROB MOSHEIN: "...and yet, you do nothing about it whatsoever. Isn't that salient? All these "lies" about "you", "Oma" etc...are all still there for the world to read. I wonder why? You claim I lied about going to your "address" (I did, twice actually, funny you don't know about the second time, you would have if you really lived there. Thats all I'll say. Trick question "Anastasia", what Texas county do you live in? come on, I double dog dare you to answer publicly) Then you hide behind a registration service for this website. I wonder why, if you are so "above board" with nothing to hide and the aggressive "boyfriend" to protect you...
QUOTE ANASTASIA D: Gee, since you double dog dared me. Who can resist that? I live in Williamson County. My next door neighbor is in Travis county. We are literally on the line. I also work in Williamson county, yet spend the day looking across the street at Travis county. So you have attempted to stalk me not once, but twice? Good to know. I guess your instinct for directions still aren't too hot, because I'm still exactly where I originally said I am. As for hiding behind a registration service, it's not really hiding. If you have a fucking fruit loop of a nutjob claiming they came to your house, you'd probably think about keeping the other fruit loops from getting the same idea. (Non fruit loops are always welcome.) As for my boyfriend, there is nothing aggressive about him. But he is more than capable of protecting me and our home. A little something you should keep in mind should you ever decide to come here for real...
QUOTE ROB MOSHEIN: "...Then, all this "libel" all over the site. All still there...as any "web forum" admin can tell you, regardless of what you think, a forum owner/provider once "on notice" of libelous material is legally responsible for the libel if they continue to permit its publication. Call a good Texas attorney. Also, ever hear of "mititgation of damages"? See, you can't just leave lible about you lying around forever to rack up damages. The law demands that you take active steps to have the libel removed immediately. This is why Oma/Justin/Jim/Terry will lose any "lawsuit" as she/they have done nothing to prevent further publication of the "libel" alleged. In fact by permitting people to keep quoting and requoteing allegedly libelous material, you are legally responsible for its publication as if you made the posting yourself...
QUOTE ANASTASIA D: I don't see it as libel. I see it as you being exposed for the scumsucking son of a bitch you are. It's not libel if it's the truth!
QUOTE ROB MOSHEIN: "...and yet, you do nothing. not even abou the alleged "lies" about you yourself. I wonder why? Funny that you never heard that the sin of ommission is equal to the sin of commission. Just as true in the Texas Courts as sunday school. I have a "real life" too, and yet I find time to completely admin and police a forum that has quite literally ten thousand times the users as this one. I guess its just a difference what we consider important...Your actions and lack thereof speak far more eloquently about you and your genuine motives here than anything else. Literally, Res Ipsa Loquitor...
QUOTE ANASTASIA D: I haven't done "nothing." Every time you've lied about me, I've been quite forward in calling you out on it. If I had something to hide, I'd be running around erasing posts all day. But I don't. I stand behind everything I say, and if you want to waste your time making up lies about me, I'm more than happy to let the rest of the people here read it, and if they have any questions, they can come to me and ask...
QUOTE ROB MOSHEIN: "Anastasia"/Oma, I will grant your answer is quite correct about Williamson county. However the nice older lady I spoke to outside, with the german sounding last name, I can't recall it just now and don't have my notes with me, said she owned the property and never heard of you or your live in boyfriend..."
QUOTE ANASTASIA D: Be sure to come back with those notes. I'd like to know who the elderly senile woman was wondering around my home. This house was built by a couple who later rented it to my boyfriend when they moved out, and he then bought the house from them. No one who could be classified as "elderly" has ever lived here. Dammit. Now you've got me worried some nice old lady doesn't know where she is...
QUOTE ROB MOSHEIN: "...Interesting that you decide to define my verifying public information, the public posted address you used, as "stalking". something only Hamou does. You yourself ought to realize how utterly stupid it is to say I'm "stalking" someone who's real name or address I don't know, much less a person I've never met...
QUOTE ANASTASIA D: If you saved the info from that whois, you have my real name and address. But we have never met, I'll give you that. And I'll also give you that stalking may be the wrong word. Lying to everyone here that you came to my house, and then making up a nice old lady to attempt to confirm your lies is very much the work of a fruit loop. So you're not a stalker. Just a fruit loop...
QUOTE ROB MOSHEIN: "...Gee and yet you keep me around. I'd think I would be the FIRST person you'd ban forever, even after I ASKED you to ban me, you still wouldn't. The only obvious reason is that you secretly WANT me here, to read all of Oma/Justin/Mike/Terry/Anastasia/and the miraculous uber-baby 's postings....
QUOTE ANASTASIA D: Like I said, this is an unmoderated forum. Someday I may be forced to change that, but for now, that's how it is. Yes, you asked me to ban you. Any reason you think I should have granted your request? You're more than welcome to leave and never come back. Do you not have the strength on your own to stay away?
QUOTE ROB MOSHEIN: "...and you still didn't answer my questions, Oma/anastasia, about why you keep all this "libel" about all these persons here, if you don't like your forum being "hijacked" by the fucking fruit loops of nutjobs...Again, the only reason is that you WANT all the Hamou/Justin ad nauseum stuff UP and available to be read...
QUOTE ANASTASIA D: Wait, wait, wait. Hold up a second. Let me get this right. Now you're saying I'm Oma. But you just said we've never met. Which is it?
QUOTE ROB MOSHEIN: "You still just keep answering my questions by your actions, despite the typical Hamou smokescreen of foul-mouthed grammar school verbiage...
QUOTE ANASTASIA D: Okay, so you're saying I am Oma. I wish someone would have told me I had my own film company. I never would have left Los Angeles...
QUOTE OLGA FAN: May 27, 2006 "Because, othewise, why would Bob/Rob accuse the Forum Admin Anastasia as Oma's agent or Oma herself? FA Anastasia even posted her cute photo in the pet thread, and they still don't seem to believe her for some reason...
QUOTE ANASTASIA D: Best I can tell, it's because they didn't like the idea of having people from the AP forum having somewhere else to discuss the Anastasia/Anna Anderson topic in an evironment they can't control. And not only did people from the AP come here, but well known authors and historians of the subject, such as Peter Kurth, Greg King and Penny Wilson decided to post. I created this forum last year as a place for those interested in the Anna Anderson story to discuss it without being ridiculed.I knew nothing about Bob/Oma when I created this forum. If someone wants to go back and research the time frame between the creation of this forum, and the first discussion about Bob and Oma, let me know. I'd be curious about the answer myself. At some point, Rob Moshein decided to try to stir up trouble by claiming that I'm lying about my identity. Before that I wasn't really aware of the whole Bob/Oma issue. Had Rob Moshein not attacked me and lied about me behind my back, the whole Bob/Oma thing wouldn't have been tolerated in the first place. However, I'll admit my curiosity got the better of me. Rob Moshein can thank himself for that. My initial instincts said that if Rob would take the time and trouble to make up lies about me simply because I decided to start up a forum, it made sense that Oma had been a victim herself, because obviously those two had an actual history. I've never even met Bob or Rob. (Or Oma, for that matter.) So I let the discussions go on unmoderated. In a way, I regret that I did. But then again, it seems a lot of questions have been raised on both sides. I don't think one side is 100% guilty or innocent. There are things about Oma I find very suspicious. There are things about Bob I think are severely shady. How will everything end? Only time will tell. My name is Anastasia....and I live in Austin, TX. I live at the address that used to be publicly posted in the whois for this domain. I have owned many, many domains over the last 10 years or so, and this is the first time I've had to withdraw my information from a whois because someone attempted to use the information against me.I still fail to see what I would have to gain by lying about who I am and where I live.
What difference would that make, really, to people posting on this forum? Membership to this forum is free. Have I ever asked anyone here for money? Have I tried to sell anyone something? Is there a business attached to this forum, or some other source of income? No, there is not. I pay for the domain and the webspace, and let others post here for free.What was Rob Moshein's motive for trying to start trouble for someone who simply wanted to start an alternative forum for people to discuss "The Legend Of Anastasia"?
Why would he take the address from the whois and come to my home looking for me? What was he planning to do when he found me? (And he certainly can, because I'm still right here, where I've always said I am.) What is his motivation for lying and saying he's been to the address in the whois and saying I don't really live here?
If I was really Oma Hamou, or someone in her "camp" there are certainly things here I would have censored or deleted. But I've left up 99.9% of everything anyone here has posted. (That other .1% were excess copies of the same post. No information was lost.) I have no connection to Oma or her people aside from the fact that they are allowed to post on this forum. I have no connection to Bob or Rob, aside from being attacked by and having Rob lie to others about me behind my back. Yet I allow them to post here too. If I had ANYTHING to hide, this forum would not be unmoderated and several people would have been banned...
QUOTE JIM: July 14, 2006 - Rob Moshein & Bob Atchison: Trouble with penetrating your consciousness is that you may be actually living in your own delusions and may not know that there is a reality that you seem to be completely unruffled by. Reality is that its a crime to file false police reports, conspire and concoct a murder for hire scheme, defraud people out of their money and a slew of other things, and as remarkable as it is how long you've been getting away with it events are in motion to bring your own hateful sadism back onto your own self in full force. Bob (Atchison), I heard you cried during the trial when a few of your lies were laid bare and you felt somewhat exposed the thing about crying is when you torture somebody and utterly destroy their lives for 5 years with unbelievable cruelty your cry baby ways are going to back fire. For years I’ve had to listen to Oma Hamou offer sympathy to you as you continue with your wonton actions of destruction against her, and heard her say that she didn’t want you to go to jail or your money she just wanted you to stop, well she doesn’t say that anymore. Thank God. Your blatant disregard for anything but your own delusions and your hatefulness provided an uncommon amount of documentation of your criminal acts coupled with the fact that Oma Hamou is one of the most meticulous record keeper in the world it is my belief that I will finally get to watch the law to do its job and give you the kind of grief for cause that you’ve attempted to give Oma without cause. It is a strong probability Bob that you will be hauled off to jail. Remember as you cry think of me think of the fortunes that you shot to hell and think of me reveling in the fact that you are a crybaby!
Source: AA Legends Forum & http://alexanderpalaceobsession.blogspot.com/2006/12/once-upon-time-there-was-non.html
According to the court record in Texas it indicates Oma Hamou had proven a likelihood of success in her libel, defamation, stalking and a slew of other things she was suing Atchison's web company, Pallasart, Rob Moshein and him personally for.
Source: http://www.omahamou.com/2nd%20Amended%20Counterclaim1.pdf
Hamou files criminal complaints against Atchison
Quote Mike Newson: "...How does that old saw go? … the wheel of justice grinds ever so painfully slow, yet it does grind exceedingly fine…The last word that I have heard is that they (the legal system) are putting every thing under the legal microscope. Lets face it this is a situation where a mistake in justice can be as serious as the crime that is suspected of being committed. The legal system demands that they know for sure what happened and that they have an iron clad case. My understanding is …so far, so good… That is time will tell, but I tend to feel that what we are experiencing is the calm before the storm, or in Oma’s situation she is in the eye of the storm, all is calm now, but the winds will reverse and the storm will rage again, but this time in the other direction. The plan is that when it happens we will let you know on Oma’s site, (http://www.omahamou.com) which way it happened --- for or against. Although at this stage the rumor that floats back to us is that it is all good for Oma, just hang in there and let ‘them” do their work. Just a quick note to Sandman, thanks for keeping the banner held high! I find insight in the way you pull things out of the cloud of the internet, even sometimes finding deeper meaning in my own words, in light of the way you cite your sources and bring it all into one cohesive and more comprehendible whole …
When a reporter from Moskovskaya Pravda asked Hamou her opinion of Bob Atchison she quipped: "... What a despicable piece of humanity...I want him to go to jail..."
Today on Bob Atchison’s Russian History Forum:
Rob Moshein and noted historian/author Penny Wilson
Quote Rob Moshein: Thanks Penny....
Quote Penny Wilson: No problem, Rob.
Quote Rob Moshein: So, what have YOU done to help our forum BE of use to students and scholars??
Quote Penny Wilson: You may remember, Rob, that I used to make many contributions to this forum -- as did other historians and authors like Greg King and Peter Kurth -- but the hostility of some of your posters made it impossible for us to continue. Therefore, I have my own site and forum now -- that's where I make my contributions to students and scholars these days.
But let me ask you this: Do YOU not have a responsibility to "students and scholars" to ensure that what is posted here AS FACT actually is true?
Especially in this contentious issue. Believe what you will about Anastasia Manahan, but her story does have facts that are often distorted and lied about in this forum. If you stop the misinformation, then this forum can become a resource.
Quote Rob Moshein: How much suppression of Free Speech should we accept??
Quote Penny Wilson: Oh, please. Not the impassioned "suppression of Free Speech" speech. Obviously, I am not championing suppression of free speech -- so don't even begin to suggest that I am. I reject that assertion entirely. You must know that there is a difference between discussion in "grey areas" and the presentation of a falsehood as a fact, which is what Annie did that ignited this whole discussion.
Quote Rob Moshein: Who shall be the "arbiter" of just exactly what IS fact and what is not, especially in borderline cases where there is much discussion??
Quote Penny Wilson: There are many sources out there that can be used. I would suggest starting with Peter Kurth's book. Requiring people to produce sources when asked for them might be another approach. There are things which can be done to minimize the misinformation on the Survivor's Forum.
Quote Rob Moshein: Easy to criticise...harder to be constructive.
Quote Penny Wilson: On the contrary, I think I was just very constructive. The question now is: Will you take any of my suggestions on board?
Quote Rob Moshein: So, you took your marbles and went elsewhere. That was VERY helpful to our forum, because you did not like being challenged on your theories. Res Ipsa Loquitor. You, Greg and Peter decided that is was better to cut and run rather than stand your ground and support your statements. VERY constructive.You pointedly beg my question of Freedom of Speech. Just WHO is the judge of what is fact and what is not? You? Greg?? Peter??
I notice that you never did answer Annie's actual question, the answer to which I myself don't know. WHY did AA not actually DISPUTE BEING CALLED TATIANA? I concede she never claimed to be, but Annie seems to have a point that she did not dissuade anyone either that she was....With all due respect to Peter, DNA has shown AA was not related to Alexandra Feodrovna. It is not exactly a reliable source anymore to show that she was...unless there is new evidence. Its easy to hide in your forum, with fewer users in a month than we have in a DAY. What are you DOING to make this place better since you choose to come here and criticise? you choose the easy way out, every time....put your money where your mouth is and make THIS a place to be "reliable" for students...Oh, and btw...about 200 elementary schools, 150 high schools, and 75 universities in the US, Britain, Australia and elsewhere find our forum to be a VERY relaible source...Starting with Dartmouth. Cornell, Oxford, Washington State, University of Virginia, The State Museums of the Russian Federation, University of Milwaukee, Ball State, Texas A&M, University of Nebraska, Bucknell, University of Michigan, University of Iowa, Baylor, Rice, Drew, and many others.
Rob Moshein is claiming these various educational institutions consider Atchison's web site FORUM reliable? What a bunch of bullshit! They do not! We at the APO Blog wonder what would these various organizations think if they were to learn of the reputations of the people behind the Alexander Palace Time Machine web site?
Although we should always be vigilant against the “Big Lie of Goebbels" ilk, nothing becomes true or ceases being true in history or factual because of what Bob Atchison or anyone else might say or believe. Only the very gullible could be swayed by an assertion of fact made without evidence to support the supposition. History is not a religion sustained by mere creed.
What is history? It is the recording of past events, whose happening may be established by the evidence which may be testimonial i.e. the record given by a witness to the event or the record as revealed archival research or archeologically. History is a systematic body of knowledge i.e. a science. It should not be conjectural i.e. forming judgments or opinions on the basis of incomplete or inconclusive information.
To me history is not to be considered static and immutable but to be subject to constant review and reassessment, should convincing evidence be presented which conclusively refutes the present knowledge. As in all sciences it should be a churning body of knowledge in which previous conclusions turn out to be false in the light of new facts or information. If after being vetted by the historians and rigorous scrutiny, the newly discovered evidence passes the sniff test, then history must be rewritten or revised to accord with the new findings.
Sadly, history is at best an inexact science- more akin to economics, where the vagaries of the human element often confound and distort the economist’s projections. The biases and prejudices of the observer of the event being recorded, or the subjective perceptions of the historian interpreting the historical evidence of the event may skew the history - at least for while.
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